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Old 05-25-2023 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
I might be lacking in communication skills as you are inclined to believe. I am having trouble with, " I already told you. APA’s position in the past has been that PS isn’t counted towards a contract’s value since profits can’t be assured.". So not only am I a poor communicator but now I must also be stoopid because this is the most ridiculous argument imaginable to me(although it is ALPA's table position). If it has no cost why didn't you get Delta's PS years ago? The answer is .....because there is a cost associated.

So, let's start over. 1. Do you think management put a cost to getting Delta's PS formula for AA? 2. Do you think APA assigned a cost to getting the PS?. If the answer to either question 1 or 2 is yes, could you attempt to quantify what YOU think would be a reasonable cost for that ?


An additional fact for you consideration. I know senior pilots who got a 1 year PS payout including the DC of 16% that was in excess of $90,000. so, bonus question, Am I supposed to believe that there is no cost associated with PS because it is not guaranteed?
There is no way I could answer that accurately and neither could you. You’re asking me to guess or go with my gut instinct. I prefer to stick to tangible facts. The facts that I have is that AA isn’t nearly as profitable as Delta, therefore if there was indeed a value tied to PS, it would be significantly of less worth than to a Delta pilot. The only official position I’ve seen taken on this very issue is APA’s stance that PS is not included in contract value.

If it’s still not sinking in for you, then I don’t know how to help you.
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