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Old 06-01-2023 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob N Oldz
Remember when this is over...
United thought you were worth .15 cents on the dollar compared to your counterparts at DL and AA (tumi TA total value vs DL TA value)
United doesn't want to give you industry matching let alone industry leading profit sharing (AA mgmt offered up DL PS)
United doesn't think you deserve a seat at the table, they won't replace BQ making UA the only major airline without a pilot in senior management
United's CEO said a contract would take 2 weeks...it's been over 4 years since your contract became amendable, you should be negotiating the follow up to the contract that started in 2020, you are an entire contract behind
United's latest proposal falls short of industry matching in a number of sections, the only section that is likely to be industry leading is scope, which was fought for and won years ago. It's not industry leading if you already have it

Market forces will force United into an industry lagging/matching contract but remember when this is all over how UA treated you and if you are thinking about going to UA is that the place you want your future to be? If you have been at UA for under a couple of years, consider your options, because this won't be the last time UA treats it's pilots this way...
“When this is all over…”

They have already made the relationship clear as day. They have made our position in the industry compared to our peers clear as well.

“When this is all over” those who foolishly allowed themselves to believe that “maybe it would be different this time” with Munoz and now Kirby will never make that mistake again. Just another management team with their golden parachutes and egos, and you are nothing but a number and a cost. Don’t be in “love” with a company that doesn’t “love” you back. This is a clear and helpful reminder of how fake all of the company BS is. Every “Flying Together” headline and BS town hall.

Seeing it for what it is, it’s purely transactional from here til retirement. No free “favors,” no more than your job description and a focus on safety, and none of it performed other than when and where it’s convenient for me and my family to spare some time with me at work. It’s liberating to be reminded what this relationship really is.
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