Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy

"it's the best we can get"
What makes a FedEx pilot not worth the same as a legacy? I truly don’t get it. Do we produce less revenue? Are passengers more profitable than cargo that allow employees to properly compensated? If you think about it, a Legacy 777 will have 3 to 4 pilots and maybe 10 flight attendants. How can the company not afford to just pay pilots? All these red herring arguments are distractions. The company can afford to pay us not only market rates, but industry leading rates. We just happen to work for an employer that wants a war. It doesn’t have to be this way, but if that’s the way management wants it, then we have to stand our ground at all costs.

"we can't guarantee that the next deal won't be worse",
I have reached the point where I don’t care. If this TA does not meet our criteria, I can only take it as an insult and an offense. If the next deal is worse, we turn that one down too. We go to the end of the line and see where that takes. I have a family. I don’t want the turmoil. But if that’s where management leads, I can only stand my ground and know what I’m worth.

"time value of money",
Being underpaid by 5% with a lagging retirement comes at a cost too.

"its not concessionary because the total value of the deal is greater"
Concessions are viewed against the previous contract. American and Delta and UPS passed with zero concessions. Why are we always the ones that agree to concessions?