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Old 06-11-2023 | 07:18 AM
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Race Bannon
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Originally Posted by Venkman
I don't think your points are necessarily wrong, but I look at it this way - you're arguing "why shouldn't we?"when the real argument is "why should we?" Who benefits? Senior pilots (financially) and the company's who would go to the ends of the earth to avoid sweetening labor contracts. If there was currently a debate about establishing a mandatory retirement age, your points would resonate better. But the argument is about why we should keep moving the established age up, and the crux of that argument is to help alleviate the pilot shortage driven by retirements. It's this looming phenomena that has granted a great deal of leverage to pilots all over, not just 121. The salary and QOL improvements that have grown out of this situation over the last 10 years is remarkable. I view pilots at the top of the payscale, arguing in favor of Age 67, as willingly and selfishly sacrificing that leverage at the expense of those below them. You're talking about throwing water on coals that haven't been this hot in 60 years. I think if the industry was stagnant right now, there wouldn't be as much passion. But it's the opposite, it's roaring. Companies are hoping for a recession or anything to cool it off and take the wind out of labor's sails. Age 67 helps them and hurts everyone else. Stop giving them ways around improving this job. They're using the greed of the individual to stave it off as long as possible. Stop helping.
Those "greedy senior pilots" spent 15 years with bankruptcy wages and work rules after serving out a B-scale. I get the impression that you think those senior greedy pilots have been making 400-500K a year for their 30+yeard career. They are "willingly and selfishly sacrificing the leverage" to get them up to your(newish pilots') level of career expectations after 15 years of having their a$$ handed to them.

The red part sounds like you are just as greedy as what you are accusing them of.

BTW. Do you work at UAL? If so, are you still in indoc? Might wanna scale back on comments like "Pops" just because you disagree with someone's POV. Sounds entitled(at least to me) and kinda like trolling.

Last edited by Race Bannon; 06-11-2023 at 07:29 AM.