Originally Posted by
NotOldNotYoung
Well Shaman, I’ll respond. We now have a TA with language to read and debate. If you would like to commence getting your panties in a wad, now would be a an acceptable time if you feel so inclined. I don’t wear panties so I’ll pass thank you. My boxers aren’t in a bunch either, but not seeing anything to be thrilled about at all. Seems like we accepted lower pay rates to get to a 12 year max pay rate from 15 trying to buy votes from those with 8-10 years on property. Gave up some QOL. Traded an A plan and B Plan for a B plan and a B- plan to get the A plan cap raised for some who choose that path. Not sure if the B- plan counts against the iRS limits ($66k this year) or is in addition to it. This approach to retirement bought some votes from the over 25 near retiree crowd and young chaps that fear an A fund. Mid career folks left with a big decision.
So we either accept a TA that missed for quite a few folks. Or vote no, clean house and hope it takes less than 2 years. Either way the company is more happy than us
That’s my first take.
What you fail to understand is that some of us were trying to elevate sentiment against exactly what we have now so that we wouldn't have to reboot the entire process. But your sentiment was consistent, "Wait and see and we must trust them" anything less is unacceptable. So now here we are with two bad options.
Your hot take on this couldn't be further from reality. This TA didn't "missed for quite a few folks" it missed the MEC's stated goals by a country mile and they still voted for it. Which was the source origin for this post. The leadership that you endorsed and defended brought us to where we are. So if the company is happy it isn't due to those of us trying to sound the alarm. Its due to the complacent apologist seemingly more concerned about the state of people's undergarments than the unenviable position we currently find ourselves in.
This is bad before the company plays games with the language to effect their needs I can only imagine what it will be after. If you aint outraged WTF is it gonna take buddy?!!