Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator

I did IOE during that time with 300 hour new hires and had no bad experiences. In fact our new hires came from formal training backgrounds and were highly motivated, with the exception of a few ERAU brats.

However, the quality of pilots on the SL list is in direct proportion to the training they get after they’re hired, and training needs to be tailored to the experience of the pilots being hired.

I can see a company like ours having little success with low time new hires because they will not modify the training program accordingly. They’ll just do what they always do; force feed the material and get frustrated at the expanding footprint.

The real problems started with the ATP rule because pilots that didn’t get the job before did now, not because they were qualified but because they were the only applicants with 1500 hours/ATP, and they had little to no formal training or quality experience. That’s when IOE went to 40-100 hours and the washout rate went up.

I’d much prefer to hire low time pilots with a formal training background than higher time pilots with 1500 hours of hundred dollar hamburgers.

The “you can’t be a good pilot without tons of hours” rhetoric is BS from egomaniacs who had to pay more dues to get here than those coming through the pipeline now or in the future.