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Old 06-18-2023 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
I am not sure your post proves what you think it does.

Someone from Delta correct me if I am mistaken, but the truth is at Delta the schedulers don't need a reason to reassign someone, but at least now they get paid . . . well at least starting in August. At United there are numerous but specific conditions that can trigger a reassignment most of which you listed. If you have not had one of those "triggered" reasons then you are "untriggered" and paid enormously well.

I was untriggered twice as a 777 FO going from TLV to HKG and it ended up being about equal to a whole months pay. It's 225% of the new trip plus pay for working on a day off PLUS you get the day off back. As I understand it Delta does NOT restore lost days off for lineholders even in the new contract.

Here are some items we have better than Delta. Some of these items are what I would consider "huge".

We can refuse to extend FAR 117 duty time and if we extend sometimes we get paid; at Delta the culture is to NEVER refuse, and the don't get paid extra.
We have IRO lines; they do not.
We get our days off restored; they do not.
We have defined minimum days off for lineholders; they do not.
Our SC callout is defined; theirs is "promptly" and open to company interpretation.
We get meals; they get them sometimes.
Our LTD is tax free; their's is not.
Our LTD pays FOs more than theirs.

I'm not talking about current pay rates as obviously that is a separate issue, and yes there are aspects of their contract that are better than ours, but it's not as "slam dunk" better as some seem to think.
Some of your UAL wins, aren’t really wins.

Int’l flights over 12hrs mandate double captains at DAL… more CAs per aircraft.
SC callout defined is not a win Both AA and DAL are undefined, and regularly 3+ hrs from call to show is acceptable.
DAL LTD comes with immediate 401K DC contributions.
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