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Old 06-27-2023 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
What did our negotiators and MEC "testify" to during the RJ/flow down grievance? How did that work out?
That was a big error on the part of ALPA's President. Jo Depete did not follow the Admin Manual Section 40. It is my belief he was ignorant of the Admin Manual that he was tasked with administering. Either of the Delta candidates for that job would have been better informed.

Originally Posted by ALPA Admin Manual Section 40
. Prior to commencement of any bargaining for any ALPA pilot group within a
mainline/express system, the applicable Negotiating Committee will meet with the
Negotiating Committees of other ALPA pilot groups in the mainline/express system to review
opening scope proposals and how they advance ALPA’s scope goals and guidelines. The
committees will work with each other to develop a consensus on proposals; if, however, they
are unable to do so, subsection 3a below will apply.
a. Following consultation as specified above, and prior to submission of the scope proposal
to the airline, the applicable Negotiating Committee will report to the Scope
Subcommittee that ALPA pilot groups have consulted with one another and have or have
not reached consensus that the planned scope proposal meets ALPA’s scope goals and
guidelines; if the latter, Negotiating Committees of other ALPA pilot groups in the
system can submit statements of agreement or disagreement to the Scope Subcommittee,
which can recommend changes following consultation with the Negotiating Committees
involved.
b. The applicable Negotiating Committee and ALPA pilot groups within the
mainline/express system will develop in conjunction with the opening proposal agreed
reporting benchmarks with respect to developments in on-going scope negotiations which
will require that the Negotiating Committee provide updates on the status of scope
negotiations to the Scope Subcommittee. In the absence of consensual agreements
concerning benchmarks, the Scope Subcommittee will determine reporting benchmarks.
4. During the period that final approval of a collective bargaining agreement is subject to
Presidential review under the Constitution and By-Laws, MEC designated representatives of
all ALPA pilot groups within the mainline/express system may submit comments prior to the
Presidential signature concerning conformity of negotiated scope provisions with
recommendations of the Scope Subcommittee and Association policy
The President of ALPA should have never "authorized" the bargaining in violation of the Delta Pilots' Scope language and should not have ratified the conflicting agreement.

The Scope Committee Chairman should have brought this concern to the Delta MEC Chairman (do not know if that happened, maybe it did). The Delta MEC Chairman would have brought this concern to the President of ALPA. The President of ALPA would have saluted smartly and done what he was told by an Executive Board member with 15,000 votes & the defacto support of all the legacy carriers on scope issues - so more than 40,000 (DePete's airline has what, 4,500?). The President of ALPA will never f' with a major's MEC Chairman. Really just a phone call is enough to stop this kind of error in its tracks.

I do know that past Scope Committee Chairman used to have meals with the President of ALPA to protect Delta pilots from this kind of predatory negotiation. Tom Canoll was one of the best administrators the association ever had - which is really important when ALPA bargaining groups are trying to get into the flying performed by Delta pilots.
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