Originally Posted by
Neosporin
Wow, no, if your comment on logging PIC while FO while manipulating the controls is something you feel is legit, then do it on your daily domestic flight as FO.
That makes no sense. There is only one PIC designed per flight, per 121. That name is on the release. That’s it. Period. Plus the role is filled by a captain in your company on that flight. Furthermore, while the captain is sleeping and you are in the left seat for 4 hours releasing him/her and you are given the responsibility by the captain while sleeping, still doesn’t give you the right to log PIC.
Now your SIC time, you are there sharing time in the seat, if you are on a 12 hour flight with 3 pilots, then you are responsible for 8 hours in any seat. 8 hours total. The other 4 hours are resting. Yes, there are always two points that everyone wants to make and another bizarre one of logging PIC. One is how much time is being logged and the other is whether to log it all because you are required for the flight, you’re only required there for duty and flight limitations.
If you wanted to log 12 hours total but only 8 hours SIC, then this would have some legitimacy. You could even make a costume column for Augmented crew for example, 4 hours.
PIC, omg, why? The sole manipulator is a 61 thing. Just upgrade and log all you want.
You are confusing acting as PIC with logging PIC which are actually two different things.
Will airlines count the time, no. However, for purposes of part 91 contract flying to meet insurance minimums the PIC time does count.
If it's a 12 hour flight, you log all 12 hours SIC. Can you log less, sure. If you wanted to log PIC for the portion while you were (PF) sole manipulator you could, but I'd highly suggest doing so in a separate column from actual acting PIC.