Originally Posted by
Noisecanceller
We have average duty period guarantee just like you guys at JetBlue used to have. Difference is we get an additional duty period of pay for over nights longer than 24hrs scheduled.
Everyone except spirit and frontier has average daily (calendar day) guarantee aka ADG.
Very few of us (simian) want to keep the current duty period language. Calendar day is industry standard. I would like to see the overnight credit trigger stay intact though. I’d also like to see the calendar day as a hard credit and not an average across the trip with 2hrs on day one and 8hrs on day 2 for a 10hr 2 day trip. That trip would pay 13hrs if it was a hard credit. That however is not industry standard but if there is any time to get it it’s in the JCBA that the company has to make happen. It would also prevent the in domicile layover shenanigans JetBlue is pulling with their pairings to eliminate any soft credit by playing the averages.
It isn't because I want to get paid less. It is because I think we would just work more for the same.... I am biased being Vegas based, but our trips start anywhere from 4am till 1am, and end between 8am and 1am. It makes the whole concept of calendar day "wrong". I only look at TAFB in hours and days off at home when the sun is up, not calendar days off. most of our worst 3 day trips could easily be turned into worse 2 day trips for the same pay by starting 45 minutes later. Maybe we need 5 ADG and 6.5 per duty period. I am not saying I have the solution, I just think that going for ADG will not improve QOL or pay, at least for LAS.
And that trip would have 5 hours on day 1 if we had hard credit..... Trips are built with the rules in mind. see above