Originally Posted by
Laughing_Jakal
I never said I sat sideways for 5 years...I sat sideways for 8 months....I said that guys going out the door right now...some of them sat sideways for 5 years.
I'm not retiring anytime soon.
I'm one of the few guys that will admit to voting yes in 2015. I'll tell anyone that wants to know. I'm also not afraid to tell them why.
You can quote Tony all you want...that doesn't mean I agree with his assessment. Fear is not a currency I deal in. I'm not panicky about wet leasing or DE Shaw, I'm not concerned about Chapter1, or Student Makeup or any of the corner cases some have elevated to "end of world" status.....You can call me naive, stupid, or unconcerned, but fearful makes no sense.
I just don't think you guys are smart enough to do what needs to be done in a timely manner...and what little you yield won't be worth the time it took to get it. You do not display acumen....just tantrums and I'm unimpressed.. I'm surprised at how threatened and ugly you get when exposed to someone who doesn't echo your group think.
In 2015 Delta's union leadership tried to get them to roll over and take a contract they weren't happy with using all the same language you are using, "You guys aren't smart enough, the yield not worth the time". Was it a good idea for the Delta pilots to have a backbone and stand up for their worth in 2015? Would you have been on the forums with these same arguments then trying to talk them out of it?
How do you think negotiations are going to go next time if we roll over to these concessions, is the company going to have new "efficiency gains" they need in return for our pay to increase with inflation? At some point we have to put our foot down and stop this precedent of trading concessions for pay.