Originally Posted by Rroku

These yes voters are why AA pilots can't have nice things.


Bottom of the barrel sick accrual at 60 hours a year. Don't get the sick hours you've earned until the following year.
I think you’re talking about how this affects new hires maybe? If so, with this TA news hires will be preloaded 22:30 of sick upon completion of initial training.

Can't pick up the remainder of the trip if you call out of any part.
Agreed. This is stupid.

Can't decline RO anymore.
You can unilaterally decline future RO. Also daily RO with mutual agreement (I know, I know…)

Electronic notification making it easier for the company.
It’s electronic communication. You can set your preferences to still require first person contact. Don’t know about you but I don’t enjoy checking my voicemail, going though the phone tree, being on hold, only to tell tracking “yes I see you delayed my departure tomorrow afternoon”. Also I don’t enjoy repeating that process to tell them that I will NS my DH. Or that I’m calling in sick. I’m looking forward to 21st century communication.

Nothing to fix TTS, red/redder - which is absolutely locked down and won't change.

Many things don't go into effect for 18-36 months.
85% of contract value, NOT including pay rates, goes into effect on DOS.

No penalties if AA misses deadlines.
Wrong. There’s a lot to this section, but the penalties comes through a separate grievance process established outside of section 23 that includes an objective arbitrator who can impose damages. (Four such arbitrators have been selected by AA and APA)

No snap up.

No two pilot requirement in the contract.



Just to name a few. We were promised QOL, it isn't there. At all. What you get is a pay raise thanks to Delta stepping up industry pay.
Yes thanks Delta, and we surpassed them by getting a 3% raise three months prior to the amendable date.

Biggest hiring boom ever. Largest numbers of retirements ever. If we vote no AA will have to come to the table quickly because they can't afford to let everyone else hire all the qualified applicants as the rest get their new contracts. We'll get stuck with the flows who can't get hired anywhere else and have no choice but waiting their turn.


So quick to cave in and accept anything thrown your way. It's pathetic.