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Old 07-13-2023 | 04:36 AM
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NotMrNiceGuy
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
First of all, you keep insinuating that I deliberately left out that we had higher pay for 2 months. I keep saying it wasn't intentional and asking why 2 months out of 127 means so much to you. UPS signed an extension last year (2022) that put them about $5 over Delta's rates from 2019. Now, they are about $50/hr behind. In 2015, when our contract took effect, we had the highest WB CAP rate by $2.10/hr. We were then passed by $35/hr or over 12%. After that, UPS signed a contract that had rates slightly higher than ours, but much lower than Delta. If we had done the same thing last fall, our top rate would have started at $364/hr with and increase every 12 months. That would have put us in the lead. So, you would be happy as long as we were momentarily in the lead? Maybe you would be happy with Delta's total contract plus a nickel. What would we be giving up by taking that?
I am simply saying it needs to be industry leading. If it was, it’s highly likely this TA would’ve passed.

I get where you’re coming from regarding UPS’s lackluster increase. But if we had offered a similar quick negotiation two year extension that gave us an DOS rate of $366 and an A-Plan bump to $140K, I think that would’ve passed here as well. I’m not sure what inflation was at the time, but as long as it kept up, it would’ve been acceptable. It’s the concessions and scope that people are struggling with.

I think we’re just arguing cause we keep responding. Yes. I think it should be industry leading. I don’t care how slim or short lived. As far as I’m concerned, getting leap-frogged is just the nature of pattern bargaining. As long as we raise the bar, I’m good.
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