Instead of reading the post the first thing is everyone screaming FUUUUUUUD.
The company is truly playing chess and the union is still using the playbook from 2015 with the same people.
Newsflash it’s not working.
There is no leverage at all. A new tactic needs to be devised that would flip the same old playbook on its head. It’s pretty obvious what needs to be done but that would require outside the mindset thinking and getting rid of some of the burn the place down negotiators. That isn’t going to fly because it’s pretty obvious that Pedro isn’t running things anymore. The hard liners are running things but that dog just won’t hunt anymore.
Nothing is going to happen anytime soon so buckle in.
Originally Posted by
jtf560
You calling out FUD is exactly FUD. Tell me how another negotiating team can negotiate with air. The company is not willing to negotiate with anybody right now. Honestly, I wouldnt if I were them either as long as the metal keeps moving, unless we are foolish enough to accept the POS we were offered.
The lead negotiator is exactly the one that we need negotiating for us unless you want the last, best POS offer the company tried to get through by going around the union. He actually wasn't recalled. We had about 700 sign a petition for recall, but he stepped down voluntarily to try to keep the strife from building even further. How did the next team work out? You know, the one that was basically hand picked by management. The team that accomplished nothing and also mostly had to step down after getting caught lying to the group. One was such a POS that he basically had to quit and go back to AA well before anyone had any idea it was going to probably be a good choice.
You need to read the emails from the union and message board posts from at least Pedro. You need to take the union surveys. We are represented. This leadership exactly follows the will of the majority and polls us at least a couple of times a year to determine that will. We have had 2 internet surveys available to ALL union members in the last 9 months or so and at least 2 phone surveys since last summer also. The union leadership exactly sent out emails and made message board posts explaining why AJs end around offer was a POS. They also explained why they weren't putting it out for a vote. Even putting it out for a vote that gets overwhelmingly voted down doesn't make the company come back to the table to negotiate. Only we can force that and so far the majority is still way too willing to work extra days and give good will to accomplish the schedules. We will get nothing until we stop. The only people that the offer we had is good forbis those who are getting ready to leave soon or who will get an SDP position for helping management push this POS through. We don't need another management manipulated union.
I do agree that it is unlikely we have a new contract anytime soon, but not because of Luthi and the rest of the leadership and negotiators.