Originally Posted by
OpieTaylor
My point is, it’s a weighed average. Does Delta have a no questions asked 1 flight commuter policy? The year two AA FO NB rate is higher than Delta, and AA will cash out sick time, for 200k at retirement. AA will pay 4K for a TDY assignment.
I don’t think you’ll find a post of me advocating to be dead weight, and don’t think anyone has ever advocated for that.
Southwest doesn’t even get paid by the hour, my point was, I don’t plan on obtaining a PHD in every company and the nuances of how they operate with regards to their contract and claiming my weighted average of importance is more important than yours and I calculated it at a higher cost the company according to me. Then rubber stamping a “1up”.
I admitted AA missed, I don’t have control over how are why and never justified a miss is palatable because we don’t need to “1up”.
I guess your arguinging if they didn’t miss it still wasn’t a 1up?
At the end of the day it sounds like Delta makes all their money with a “GS” which I am not familiar with, but sounds like buying you off a trip and and paying you premium for the new trip. I am not sure if they do that in straight seniority or if a pilot has those days as off days then they can skip the seniority of a conflict.
AA contract allows the company to conflict you and pay you for both, but it comes after just giving it to a pilot who has those days off, and there is always someone with the days off.
Also it seems as though Delta shares “GS” where you get a second turn after everyone has had a chance at 1 turn, and AA is seniority order where you don’t get any turns unless pilots senior to you abstain. Which one is “1up” is largely dependent on seniority.
At Delta, a "GS" ("Green slip") is a trip that the company chooses to cover from a list of pilots who have volunteered for premium open time. It pays 200%. They are assigned in seniority order, from an app that calls you. If you're eligible, you get a call, then check the app and indicate if you want to do it or not. The most senior pilot to accept gets it. Once you've had #1 for the month, every other eligible and legal pilot for the next one available gets a chance before you. Same goes for #2, #3, etc, but it's not uncommon to see people get several a month if they were the only available and legal pilot for that trip.
We can also take a GS on a day a trip was dropped by the company, for example, taken for IOE, which pays 100% for the dropped trip plus 200% for the GS (triple dip).
I don't think it's accurate to say all Delta pilots make a significant portion of our income from GS because I don't think a majority of pilots play the GS lottery. Also, they're based on staffing being tight. When staffing catches up, the GS stop flowing. Most of our pay comes from the actual rates, but also a lot of soft pay and credits in our contract. Profit sharing is also significant, which accumulates all year and is paid on Feb 14. It could be anything between 5% and 20% of your year's gross, depending on how the company did. Right now, mid year, they have already surpassed last years profit sharing pool, which paid about 7% for pilots.