Yes, generally when the union gives something up, I'd expect they get something meaningful in return. I especially want something in return when we're giving up something we negotiated to get in the first place. I just don't veiw a promise from the company to limit 23m7 (we've already debated whether their application is even legit, so I wont touch that here), a "good deal." I've already seen them try to negotiate a side deal with an FO which closely mirrors a post above, so we clearly can't trust them to do the right thing.