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Old 08-01-2023 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
This isn't exactly accurate. It is true that reserves are able to go to the ALV+15, but only if they grab you while you're below the reserve guarantee. The reserve guarantee is the ALV minus 2. Once you reach your reserve guarantee, you are "Full" have have no further obligation to the company. For example, if you have 65 hours for the month, and the reserve guarantee is 74 (76 ALV minus 2). You fly a 2 day trip worth 10:30, and that brings you to 75:30 for the month. You are now over your guarantee, so you are done for the month. OTOH, if you flew a one day trip for 5:15, you'd now be 70:15, you could still be assigned a trip all the way up to the ALV+15 depending on the days of availability you have left.

Many pilots attempt to fill up at the beginning of the month so they fill up before they run out of days of availability. This is something reserves can preference for trip coverage.
To add to this, at DL going anywhere near ALV+15 is very rare. Getting more than a couple hours over a reserve guarantee not even remotely common. There are lots of ways to manage around that.

Also, DL cannot give you any trip which exceeds your remaining days on call - so in the above example, just because you are 3:45 short of being “Full”, doesn’t mean you can fly another 20ish hours if you don’t have 4 consecutive days of reserve remaining. If you only have 1 day remaining, you still can only fly that one day for a couple hours “over”. Since the maximum Reserve Guarantee is 80 hours, it’s actually really hard to exceed 85 via trip assignments, even if you want to.

Originally Posted by AXNKAA
Good info, thank you! So basically it’s reserves can fly 87-99 hours. So yes AA’s hard 85 is better than that. I do believe some of this is being lost in the uproar over TA 2.0.
See above, very, very few DL pilots are ever getting trips totaling over 85 hours. It’s possible, yes, but any comparison to a “hard limit” of 85 cannot assume the upper end of the limit, or that it happens much at all.

Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
I could MAYBE stretch my brain a little and say we matched DAL. Not sure I could get there but it isn't unreasonable. To say we matched UAL is simply not true. Period. APA's email after UAL's AIP had 23 bullet points that they considered industry standard. We achieved 4 of them from our most recent talks. These are not industry leading items they are industry standard. We can't even get to industry standard other than pay rates or other pay related items.

The townhall last night was embarrassing. APA is a peewee town league team playing against the KC Chiefs at the negotiating table. Run over and trampled on.

Edit: There a multiple unchanged items from UAL, DAL, AA that AA will remain industry trailing. Things that UAL and DAL already had but didn't improved in their most recent bargaining. Hotels, etc.
Are you serious, it’s a stretch to think AA matched DL, then UA? Really? We would easily come up with more than 23 bullet list items which matched. On balance, everyone knows APA came in very low on pay rates, and then matched DL’s AIP to the penny. Plus lots of other matched items like retro of 4/4/14, and other work rules as well. UA then matched DL and added 2% to the pay rates after our snap-up clause. AA then “matched” that…. Again. I don’t know why what’s so hard to “stretch” your brain around. Without DL and UA, AA’s contract would be billions lower.

Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
Thats for RO. The new RO is 4 hours and the 0159 is gone.

The TA reassignment limitation is “no more than one calendar day.”
FYI, DL is the same. No more than one calendar day past original footprint
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