Old 08-08-2023 | 06:34 PM
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TXMike
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From: B737 Line FO
Default Sad to say, if you want AA, don't come here..

Man I hate to even say this, but many others have already said it. The "flow" is not your friend in today's hiring market.

A little background. I'm a second career guy, long time AA pax, Exec Plat even for several years. LOVE the brand... it feels like home. When I switched to professional flying and got a CJO at Envoy I was over the moon. Get to fly an amazing jet with the logo I prefer, winning..

BUT, I picked the absolute worst way to get to AA while the hiring frenzy is going on. When my captains joined Envoy 4/5/6 years ago, it made complete sense as hiring at the legacies wasn't really a good option for them as the minimums were much higher.

All of us that joined the regional FO ranks in the last 12-24 months are in a different world, not of our creation, just blind luck of timing. This legacy hiring frenzy, AA peaks last, will peak in the next 12-36 months and calm down (age 67 will affect this somewhat). "Flow" is over 6 years.

Of my new hire group, a couple of us absolutely hammered to get hours.. picked up extra, picked up when we go displaced, etc. One class mate hit 860 hours flown in his first 12 months.

None of us can get AA to talk to us. That's fine, I get it, there is a "flow"... don't rob Peter to pay Paul. BUT, AA is hiring people with lower qualifications/experience/resumes because they are somewhere else.

Two classmates (with about ~550 hrs) are already at SWA. I am at a little over 700 with a SWA CJO and class date. My class mate over 800 hours just got his UA CJO. Another class mate has DA and SWA interviews next week. AA won't talk to any of us so they are losing all of us.

I'll keep my AA app up to date as I leave, but maybe SWA will be awesome and I'll just stay.

Just know, if you come to Envoy and wait for the flow, 6000+pliots will hire in before you. Time is not your friend in this market.

I have sincerely enjoyed Envoy, the people I work with, especially the E175. I do not want to leave, but to stay in this hiring market would be insane. Being comfortable is less important that senority.

NOTHING is more important that getting your # at your final destination airline. NOTHING.

Take the path that leads to your final destination in as little time as possible.

If you want to work for DA/UA/SWA, Envoy is great. Come get good training, fly a great airplane, 98% cool Captains, upgrade at 950 hours, and then get hired where you want.
If you want to work for AA while hiring is hot, do not come here.

Good luck and choose well.
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