Originally Posted by
LJ Driver
You must have me confused with a different petulant child.
Common theme since this TA was released:
- Ignore all the things that will substantially improve QOL
- Focus on one or two hot button issues
- Peruse 5% of the TA
- Get upset that it isn’t precisely the language they wanted
- Spread rumors that aren’t true and talk about how crappy life will be under this TA
- Tell everyone how upset they are we are compromising so much
- Be corrected by people that actually know how to read
- Continue to whine about it and tell everyone they are voting NO
- Vote yes
I literally couldn’t care less if someone disagrees with me, but please be educated and know wtf you are talking about (and what the TA language states).
You responded to the post that sunvox responded to, mine. I read the TA, my comprehension may be different, my priorities sure are.
1. QOL better in this TA than last-somewhat
2. UAL, and I like it here, does not have the best work rules in the majors and by even some LCC’s, by a long margin, saying a thing is so, doesn’t make it so.
3. Too many people are posting ad hominem attacks, accusations of stupidity, incompetence, ‘virtue voting’, simply because their priorities and opinions don’t line up with others. I haven’t gone onto this thread and said, “old rich bastards, screwing the bottom half of seniority with crappy QOLso they can cash in their retro checks are just self seeking, selfish dbags, (“I got mine!”).” Their priorities and opinions don’t line up with mine but I respect their position.
4. This whole thread is designed for people to state their position and make their case. If it is just too much, don’t participate in this thread. (Im not after this post).
5. 1 or 2 hot button is the name of the game here if they are important to that person. I was asked, what I’d give up to get what I want. I could’ve said I’d give up retro. Cause let’s face it, it ain’t gonna be substantial for me (less than 10k to some of y’all’s 150k). But I realize that is an untenable and unfair statement to the whole. Some of us are built different.
6. There are, some very serious issues regarding the TA. Things that could destroy future leverage in negotiations, no the sky isn’t falling but some of us will be here longer to be affected by future negotiations in new contracts, it will necessarily matter more to us.
7. IANAL, are you? This contract is written by lawyers for lawyers, it’s dense and in that you must allow interpretations of language to differ. Then too, those people who KNOW, spout off things about other airlines that aren’t factual to provide comparisons.
8. Vote no.
Look man, if I was unfairly harsh, I apologize for my words. In the end, we are entitled to have our opinions, hot button issues, and vote the way we want to. State your position and make your case, answer questions about your position but no one should be vilified for their position.