Originally Posted by TOGA Thrust

Some one holds a gun to your head and tells you to give him your wallet - you do.

Using your theory, you just voluntarily gave up your wallet - right?

Now you could say no and this guy may shoot you and take your wallet anyway, or he may pistol whip you and take your wallet anyway, but he is going to take your wallet. You just have to decide how much additional and unnecessary pain you want to suffer before you give him your wallet.

That’s how BK works.

Originally Posted by A320

Grumble doesn't want to hear any "Nam" stories about 9/11, Chapter 11, the threat of the 1113 process, parking 120 planes ,loss of pensions, loss of ESOP stock value, Bond Allocation malfeasance, loss of all work rules, parking additional 100 planes to facilitate a merger, Double Furloughs, massive displacements, getting short sticked in an SLI arbitration, etc. etc. as he doesn't GAF. Grumble thinks you voluntarily gave away your pension and he probably thinks you voted to give away the RJ flying. He is a hypocrite as he will stay to the bitter end just like everyone else who says they won't if it changes. It happened when they changed it to 65 and it'll happen again. I do take comfort in that the Yutes today have Captain Vacancies just waiting for them right out of the birth canal practically. Along with all the crap that happened in the lost decade, how long was it before you could hold NB Captain anywhere? I bet it was more than a year. A 2000 UAL hire took what 16 years to make Captain? Again Grumble doesn't GAF.

That's ok though because Congress may or may not change the age regardless if we write to them or Santa Clause as we have virtually zero lobbying clout compared to other parties.

for the record I'm opposed to raising the age but then again I've been conditioned to not getting everything I want.