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Old 09-22-2023 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw

The place to weed them out is the interview or indoc/initial training when they can be fired for any reason.

The 9E flows actually seem to have most of the attitude problems. There's a whole lot of them that stayed for the flow because they couldn't get hired anywhere else, for clear reasons. They come to training and act like they're doing us a favor by being here.
It's more than just the 9E flows, its the lack of overall aviation chops of many of our new hires. CFI ----> regional ----> mainline 121 in under 4 years is just not working well. Our training programs were designed for the ex-mil pilot with ~ 8 years experience or a civilian with about the same level if not a bit more time. Looking at about 10 years there. The quality of candidates and those we are giving CJOs is of some concern. It's been discussed at the last 2 LCA meetings and at the ASF last week in Chicago. It's got people's attention. As you said Nick, we're hiring folks now that wouldn't have gotten a first look at a regional 10-12 years ago.
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