Originally Posted by
ThumbsUp
Thats not quite correct. Read 8-D-1-e-(1).
Mil guys also don’t necessarily need 1000 hours, but 500 in the case of people who have flown transport category aircraft.
Originally Posted by
744ButtonPusher
because you have to already meet 121 captain requirements in order to be awarded a captain vacancy (voluntary or otherwise) . So a military pilot who has never flown 121 (at least 500 hrs worth maybe more depending on what they flew in the military ) would not meet the requirements and Therefore not eligible to be forced into a captain slot.
also, while the freezes start on award date , these captain slots will have an imputed award date that will be adjusted based on when they meet the requirements to train.
Man, they twisted the contract into a pretzel to force the ability to upgrade new hires. There's no way they don't use that clause after jamming it in that way.
The thing is, if they're going to force new hires into the left seat, the lack of 1,000 hrs SIC won't stop them. 121.436(a)(3) talks about the required 1,000hrs SIC, but 121.435(a)(2) talks about an "appropriate type rating for the aircraft being flown". Not many new hires have a B737 or A320 type. If they're going to overlook the type requirements, they're going to also overlook the 1,000hrs SIC because they own the pilot for 24-25 months even after they upgrade.
Someone mentioned captain new hire classes. I think United is going to do that, have a Captain class start on Monday and a FO class start on Tuesday like some cargo companies do for WB/NB.