Originally Posted by Andy

You're simply not willing to accept that Europe and NATO are the aggressors here and Russia is trying to protect land that is flat and VERY EASY to roll European ground troops through to Russia. If one stops looking at the Soviet Union/Russia through western propoganda, one would realize that the western world has been the aggressor during the Cold War through today. Soviet/Russian moves have been defensive.
For example, placing missiles in Cuba was a response to US missiles placed in Turkey.

As far as the agreement being 80 years ago, that's COMPLETELY immaterial. 80 years ago in the rest of the world is like last week in a US timeline. And just because the Soviet Union changed its name to Russia, that does not mean that the population there doesn't continue to have great concern over European aggression. Europe has historically been the ones to invade Russia. For the last several hundred years - but I guess that history is lost on you since you consider it to be so long ago. George Santanaya had a quote about history ... Those that cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

I'm no Russophile and I'm definitely not a Putin fan, but pretending like NATO is a benign defensive alliance is beyond the pale.



BS. You've been brainwashed and fail to look at things through the eyes of others.


Does no one in this forum understand the writings of Sun Tzu?
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”