Originally Posted by
JohnBurke
You don't know the history of Israel is a modern nation-state, do you?
Do you know where the schism between jews and arabs comes from?
Have you ever incorrectly used the word "anti-semetic," thinking that it means "anti-jew?" While it's often defined that way, and certainly much of the arab world is anti-semitic in that it is anti-jew, it is also paradoxically true that both jews and arabs are semites.
You're aware that the arabs and the jews are both semites, of course. Aren't you?
You're aware that anti-jewish literature and sentiment for a great many centuries has been far more aggressive and prominent from Christian sources, than from Islam? Did you not know that?
Israel is under attack by Hamas. What year was Israel established? If you guessed 1947, you'd be right. Give yourself a pat on the back. (UN partition in 1947, declaration of the state of Israel 1948). If you guessed that arabs, and specifically Palestinians outpopulated jews in the new partition by 2:1, you'd also be right.
Now--so far as us air traffic pulling back from the current conflict zone, that's a yes and no. Legacy carriers will pull back, but ACMI operators will see increasing frequency of travela and transport. Every time Israel starts lobbing rockets, someone has to bring those rockets to Israel. Been there.
The Abrahamic tribes that would identify as Jewish go back about 5000 yrs, where in the Pentateuch a legal, religious and tribal system is clearly described pre-history. If that source doesn’t work there is always the written tradition (written vs oral - written coming long after the oral) which exists through Dead Sea scrolls and other surviving fragments that date 500BC (2500 years). That was a still 1000 years -give it take a hundred- before mohammadist traditions became normalized in the region, bonding the disparate groups of nomads through more standardized religious norms, but, not a distinct, nationalized ethnic and state identity. Various diaspora’s and invasions left a true and permanent Jewish state to be desired but even this occurred under Jewish leaders at various times well before the idea of a coherent Palestinian state under normalized customs and laws existed. The point of this is that the use of 1947 as a starting date for a Jewish state as the starting context for these issues is massively flawed, as is ignoring the timeframe wherein Arab nationalism and charismatic leaders arose who used the Palestinian / Jewish issue to catalyze their people and lead them.