Originally Posted by
Hotel Kilo
That's one category, in one base in one seat. Funny you didn't bother to mention the 73 side, or the 320/73 in ALL the bases I listed. It didn't do diddly squat. Seniors have the holiday off. Then they will GS, AND get the additional 5:15 same as it ever was (sans the add'tl 5:15)
You asked for a BES where we are seeing Holdiay pay affecting bidding,
I gave you one. Mine.
At the time, I was out and about, and not able to just sit with a calculator checking other categories ad nauseam.
But now that I have more time, I thought
maybe I missed something? (I didn’t) Just to refresh, this was your claim:
Originally Posted by
Hotel Kilo
I didn't see any evidence of that looking at the most of the NB A wides. I looked at 73/320 in DTW, MSP, LAX, NYC and ATL. Dudes got unstacked right up to the cutoff line over the holiday. Lots of purple over the 23rd for sure. So no, not seeing it. What BES are you seeing this?
As you can see below, that’s just not true. The “cutoff line” for line holders avoiding coverage is top 50%
of line holders, which typically is going to be low 40’s% BES seniority. In Nov, the first Line holder to get coverage was generally on Thanksgiving day - not so for Reserve, which is effectively
never exempt from coverage, (except for the top couple bidders).
320 A first Coverage/“unstacking”:
ATL line 71%, Res 88% (Res Turkey day
92%)
DTW line 62%, Res 58% (Res Turkey Day
65%)
MSP line 73%, Res 68%, (Res Turkey day
82%)
NYC line
60%, Res 46%, (Res Turkey Day 46%)
LAX line
65%, Res 46%, (Res Turkey Day 46%)
73 A first Coverage/“unstacking”
ATL line
83%, Res 59% (Res Turkey day 75%)
DTW line 46%, Res 48% (Res Turkey Day
48%)
MSP line
97%, Res 51%, (Res Turkey day 56%)
NYC line 60%, Res 69%, (Res Turkey Day
69%)
LAX line 59%, Res 73%, (Res Turkey Day
73%)
As you can see, it’s not “just one category”. Only DTW 73 had coverage anywhere near the “cutoff”, with the rest being at
least 60% for a line - some of them
much better. The
highlighted red is the most Junior pilot to be able to avoid coverage on Thanksgiving Day in each BES, if being willing to do Reg or Res to achieve it. 9/10 BES’s could have Thanksgiving off at 65%, and 4/10 at 82% or better. MSP had 97% being able to avoid coverage at all! “Purple” in both Reg
and Res over the 23rd? Not all that much.
Originally Posted by
Hotel Kilo
… If >50% seniority in those BES I listed you are unstacked and working over the holiday ...
Absolutely false.