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Old 10-25-2023 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike
Amen brother…24 almost 25 years in at the Eskimo. We have never bothered to fix much of anything…..Pay rates and now pbs which does not fix anything. Our contract is essentially unchanged. With our incredible unity, in a market where we could have burned the book and started over we voted for pay-rates(without snap-up) with a weak market adjustment sentence…..and pbs……and the word “scope”….Take as long as it takes…This opportunity only comes around once in a lifetime……We squandered ours. Our market rate adjustment that gave us our payrates was not contractual….It was a gift. And pbs will not fix the toxic, pilot hating stew that drives every decision Alaska Airlines makes. While SWA may be venturing in to a similar management mindset, they are rank amateurs. Alaska’s special brand is as old as the airline itself.
“Contract unchanged”



We got that stinking thing called scope. You know, the thing you avoided for years. So now that you have it, I could see the view look that it feels like no change. The industry average up this year was modified (your “gift” isn’t really a gift, it’s dealing with a reality for recruitment and retention). $340.25 which is within 1% of the big 3. PBS will make it easier to get certain days off and get a line with more of the types of trips you want. As it is, you get to use your 25 yrs seniority to double dip in the seniority game for 1st and 2nd step, and then free for all 3rd step. At that point you’re basically PBSing your line.

It’s ok to fear change. That’s seems to be the mantra for a lot against PBS for those who haven’t used it.


“Toxic pilot hating stew.”

25 yrs at AS, respectfully, what other airlines have you worked at? Browsing Delta forums (especially that Ed bastion one), Southwest forum, AA, and you’ll see pilots who are convinced their management is terrible and hates pilots.
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