[QUOTE=Jet J;3715385]explain how that relates to a pilot groups safety culture? You can’t possibly be that stupid right?[/QUOT

I don’t know anyone here who doesn’t operate safely. With 4k flights a day and 800 planes….stuff’s gonna happen. Nobody is going out of their way to cut corners.

We’re in contract negotiations…I’m not in a hurry to do anything. Things happen…like shoving landing gear through the wing in SNA…nobody I’ve seen is blaming that pilot for the incident. Having someone in your training dept lose it in the jumpseat while under the influence isn’t a good look.