Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver

IRRELEVANT concessions?

Now we KNOW you are a company stooge if not a management pilot.

If you think allowing OEM pilots to routinely fly OUR airplanes is a good idea you have NO concept of scope or how important it is. There's already been one major scope dodge here that cost at least 50 seniority list pilot jobs. You don't want another.

The fact that management is fighting SO HARD to claw back EFPP should tell you all you need to know about its potential value. The negotiating committee has expressed SOME willingness to give it up IF the rest of the package is SPECTACULAR. If you think the company proposal is spectacular, you prove the most famous axiom widely attributed to P. T. Barnum.

The signing bonus....you're telling me that a guy on property 8 days deserves the same bonus as a guy on the property 8 YEARS? Straight-up vote buying. If you want to START everybody's bonus at $15 K and THEN give everybody $150 per month of service (with NO CAP) then I'm good with it. If not, straight up NO for me.

Will we get Delta money (on an apples to apples, per day of work comparison)? No. Will we get major hard limits on duty time and the like? No. Will we get major improvements in airline policy, hotels, and crew food? No. As some have said "this job will always kinda suck." But it's long past time for them to PAY for the suck and they are completely unwilling to do it.