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Old 12-08-2023 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by QOLmax
In my particular example, SC started at 0200. Since that time is considered a RAP per FAR117, my max FDP would be shortest of (A) Table B limits + 4 hrs, which is 13 hrs, or (B) 16 hrs. So max RAP + FDP is 13 hrs, meaning FDP must end by 3pm.

With that said, my example in the 1st post would hold true... I can't legally be assigned anything after about 10am, without requiring an FDP extension or disruption of HDO, correct?
Super common misunderstanding that your max RAP+FDP is based on the time your RAP started. It's actually based on your report time. Let's take your example. You get called at 1000, reporting at 1230. Table B shows a maximum 13 hours of FDP if you start at 1230. 13 + 4 = 17 hours, but as you mentioned, 16 is the max. So 16 hours is the max RAP+FDP. Now you take that 16 hours and apply it from the 0200 start, meaning they could use you all the way to 6pm. The last caveat is the contract allows them to go one more hour if the final leg is a deadhead, so technically you could be used til 7pm. In this particular case, using your example of two 45-minute flights with a 45-minute break, you could be called as late as 1pm (called at 1300, report 1530, 1630 departure, deadhead back arrives 1845... Edit: actually 1315, the 15-minute debrief doesn't count towards FDP).

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