Originally Posted by
frmrdashtrash
Everyone knows what was in the LBFU. I have yet to meet anyone on the road who thinks it's worth the paper it is written on.
What makes you think Section 6 is going to work any differently than what is occuring now?
The NRFO changes and signing bonus are hot garbage. The SDP stipend could have been worked out at any time over the last few years but the company places zero value in any of those positions. The signing bonus is the exact same as it has been since 2015, if not longer. It's laughable, as is the $15K minimum for every pilot on the property. Another poster already mentioned the company vote buying scheme, and that is entirely accurate.
When you let the fox into the henhouse he's going to eat however many chickens he wants. OEM pilots with absolutely routinely fly our aircraft if we give you, oops, management that scope relief. That's clearly the plan.
You clearly have no idea what the definition of a NRFO flight is, how many occur, how they occur, the planning required behind them, the risk assessment required by the current CBA, etc...
"Pedro and his gang" aren't the only ones who deemed this proposal wasn't good enough. Save for some pilots leaving the property who would like to pad their bank accounts via the joke of a signing bonus, no one who considers this place a career carrier wants that POS.
You may head on back to your cubicle now. You tried. Have a Twinkie as a reward.
Excellent post!
I recently left after 21+ years and I never had any intention of leaving until I realized they have no plan to pay for skill and experience.
I hope this doesn’t turn out badly for my brothers and sisters still at NJ.
it seems they are absolutely clueless of the opportunities now for professionals in our industry. It is a very different land scape from the days of past where they can do what they are trying to do now with their short sighted take it or leave it mindset.
I left in August and at least every other week I have one of my friends reach out to me asking about the reality of walking away…
There are good and bad to both sides of the 121 vs NJ world but, there are sub 18 month upgrades at every Legacy carrier right now which makes it pretty easy to make up for initial lost pay. Not to mention, I really won’t be far off at month 13 as an FO vs my 21 year Captain pay. Not including the 17% 401K DC from AA makes it over and above what my income was at NJ. FWIW
I’ll finish my last 10 years at American and commuting 🥴.
I sincerely hope you guys get what you deserve, I know all too well how demanding and challenging that job can be.
I have been quietly watching this thread for some time now and it is very apparent which posters are attempting to spread FUD.. and some inexperienced others that may or may not be unknowingly doing the same.
Keep up the fight!! You are worth it!!
Cheers
TW