Originally Posted by
DLax85
While the Holiday Season focus has been the latest poltical games inside our own MEC & NC, the final piece of the "Industry Standard Payrates" was published with the new SWA TA....and their associated 64 page SWAPA Contract Comparison.
If you haven't read it yet, get a copy of the pdf. Focus on pages 15-21, which discuss Aircraft Grouping - Wide Body (WB), Large Narrowbody (LNB) and Small Narrow Body (SNB), Important Notes re: each airline, Fleet Data, and finally - black & white, straight forward Industry Hourly Rates.
(Note: SWA pilots pay is based on TFPs. To convert 1 TFP to 1 Hour of Pay you must multiply by 1.149. The SWA new TFP rates have been converted to hourly rates in these charts to allow direct comparison)
(Note: Unfortunately, in our 2006 CBA negotitations we agreed that whichever aircraft replaced the 727 --- the 737 or the 757 -- either aircraft would be paid at 727/737 rates. We were the first and only airline to agree to pay band the 757 with those smaller/less capable narrow body aircraft).
Here are the new 2024 Industry Hourly Rates for Large-Narrow Body aircraft.
Top-of-Scale Captain:
Fedex (failed TA 1.0 - Feb '24) - $339.64
American (A321neo/XLR) - $374.36
Delta (757) - $374.36
United (757) - $374.36
Southwest (737) - $364.52
Alaska (737) - $340.25
Hawaiian (A321neo) - $329
Jet Blue (A321neo/737) - $330
Spirit (A321neo/737) - $306
Top of Scale - First Officer:
Fedex (failed TA 1.0 - Feb '24) - $245.75
American (A321neo/XLR) - $255.69
Delta (757) - $255.69
United (757) - $255.69
Southwest (737) - $255.17
Alaska (737) - $235.21
Hawaiian (A321neo) - $229.64
Jet Blue (A321neo/737) - $228.13
Spirit (A321neo/737) - $197.97
Under TA 1.0 our 757 Capt's would be paid 9.3% below all 3 legacy airline rates, and 7% below SWA 737 rates.
Under TA 1.0 our 757 FOs would be paid 4% below legacy rates, and 3.7% below SWA 737 rates.
Is this acceptable?
While TA1.0 properly addressed, and begins to correct, the current Fedex 15 year pay scale vs standard airline 12 year pay scale, it did not focus on or address the fact we continue to accept 757 pay rates BELOW Industry Standard, and now even below SWA 737s.
Please discuss.
In Transparency, Integrity, and Unity (for Everyone),
DLax
I think it's well known at this point that TA1 pay rates missed the mark. 14% DOS was unacceptale. 25% should have been the target.
Now it will have to be even higher because we were due 22% compounding in January 2025. Sure would be disappointing if we wait 1.5 years for a TA that has 3% more pay rates than what we would have at that point under TA1.