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Old 01-05-2024, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DLax85 View Post
Let's Go Big to Small.

Does our union or Fedex want to go to a single pay scale model like UPS?
There are both benefits and downsides to this pay model.

Does SWA fly the 757?
Easy answer - No. And we should have never agreed to pay the 757 at 727/737 rates.

What's the industry standard for 757 pay?
Easy answer - specifically outlined in my original post.

Top-of-Scale Captain - Jan 2024:
American (A321neo/XLR) - $374.36
Delta (757) - $374.36
United (757) - $374.36


Top of Scale - First Officer - Jan 2024
American (A321neo/XLR) - $255.69
Delta (757) - $255.69
United (757) - $255.69

How do we keep 767 & Airbus paying the same as 777 & MD11?
Well, now that gets interesting. There's multiple questions and answers here.

Does the rest of the fleet get the same percentage increase as the 757?
Great question. But was that ever our goal, or just what we've done in the past?

Is it OK if the 757 guys get a slightly bigger, initial percentage increase vs 767/A300/777/MD11, if that's what it takes for everyone to be paid industry standard rates?
I'd argue Yes - absolutely. The WB jets would still get paid more. The 767/A300 could still be lumped in with othe others.

The problem was created in the 2006 contract when we traded mythical A380 rates for substandard 757 rates. Let's not kid ourselves, in Aug 2006 the company knew they were selecting the 757, not the 737. The 757 announcement came almost immediately after the CBA became effective on Nov 1, 2006.

Should that be rectified now? .....especially in the era of the MBCB Plan where "every year counts"?
The mentality, and promise of - "Dont worry about 757 pay, you'll retire off wide body pay" no longer holds true. High 5 will be gone for new hires. If "every year counts", then let's ensure that "every year" and "every aircraft and every seat" is paid at industry standard rates. One's retirement is based on it! Even more true, when you consider those early MBCB Plan contributions are the ones that will compound/grow the most, over the longest time period.

It is these type of changes, and details, which can make TA2.0 truly more equitable --- and is within the confines of the limited areas we are negotiating in the next 4 months.

You want TA2.0 to pass at greater than 70%? ....fix the underpayment of 757 rates now.

In Transparency, Integrity and Unity (for Everyone),
DLax
Why not just make the single pay rate like we have here at UPS? One second order effect to this would be that folks waiting years for training slots would be pay protected, and maybe some would stay content flying the 757 (or its successor, probably another narrowbody).
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