Originally Posted by
JustInFacts
First, let's clear this up. I am not against the 757 paying the same rate that it pays at Delta. My questioning is more along the lines of the argument to get that rate. When we go into negotiations, we have to have justification for our asks. The company asks for that. The NMB asks for that. We ask the same of the company. So, as I cautioned, be careful what you ask for, ie, industry standard rates.
You keep saying that we should have industry standard pay rates. That is one of your justifications for 757 pay. Well, industry standard would make our 767's and Airbuses pay the same as the 757. Is that what you want? How do you convince the mediator that we deserve industry standard on the 757 when we agreed to classify that airframe as a NB in 2006, but say that we don't want that to apply to the 767 and Airbus. You said there are multiple solutions to solve this issue, yet haven't presented any solutions.
The other argument you make is that if we give up the A plan, then every dollar counts. I think that is a more solid argument, however, it requires giving up the A plan for all new hires. Is that what we want, an increased A plan for current pilots, and some other DC/MBCBP for all new hires in exchange for higher 757 rates?
If we get further down the road with the NMB, and get released, these are things we will have the present to the PEB. Things get more dicy after that.
Yes - we want industry standard rates. Every aircraft. Every year. Decreasing our top rate at 15 years down to top rate at 12 years over the life of the contract was a smart addition by Fedex Mgmt. They did it to attract the younger pilots who are now facing stagnation. It's also good for us as it will allow direct comparison at top of scale in future contracts. Just because we agreed to something in 1998, 2006 and 2015, doesn't mean we can't ask for it to change in 2024.
The 757 is a NB aircraft. The 767 & A300 are not. They are clearly WB aircraft.
2024 Top of Scale Industry standard rates for each:
757 Capt (AA, DAL & UAL) - $374.36
757 FO (AA, DAL & UAL) - $255.69
767-300 (DAL & UAL) - $374.36
767-400 (DAL & UAL) - $447.24
A300 is not flown by any of the 3 big legacy carriers
I'm not an advocate of sunsetting the A plan, but it appears our NC and the company both are (...were).
My point, don't ask younger guys (future hires) to buy into sunsetting the A plan, and subsequent elimination of it's "High 5" benefit, and then continue to pay out the 757 at sub-standard, industry standard rates.
Pay each aircraft at their true, industry standard rate.
In Transparency, Integrity, and Unity (for Everyone),
DLax