Ok, so based on this thread and the "Interesting domino reaction" thread, it seems to me that everyone should bid 30CA in HKG and see who gets lucky. I doubt if they are going to create an aditional 37 positions when 30 FO seats are still vacant, so some should get passover pay for sure. For the rest, W/B FO for all my friends...The company and DW created this mess with the 65 retro, crappy LOA and canceled bids, so let them live with it, or fix it so no one gets left behind. After all, isn't it the right thing to do? Interesting times indeed...SG