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Old 01-07-2024 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by max8222
Wht did you cherry pick everyones contract? Delta get 4:15 per training day. Jury is out on the retro pay raise. Belly freight and extraterritorial flying is all smoke and mirrors by other carriers, they are doing the same thing we are. I have had multiple times when a UPS can was loaded onto my flight. Snap up looks good, how about when they start to snap down. Got to make a profit to share it.
I didn't cherry pick anything. Everything I wrote is industry STANDARD, not industry leading. Meaning that AA, DA, and UA all have those things. And that includes Delta's training pay which is now 5 hours a day. For what we do, we should be industry LEADING and I should be cherry picking those items. But I thought listing industry standard items woulb be an easier sell to you and others that always seem to take the other side's side.

As for scope, IPA has language in their contract that protects extraterritorial flying. Even the IBT has this at Atlas! The IPA also tracks belly freight so that if it gets to a certain volume, it gets moved by UPS aircraft. I think even 2 pilot cockpit is standard now as well. And I also forgot about medical privacy/freedom.

Why are you even argueing against what we should get even if all of that was industry leading? Are you not a pilot here that wants these things? Keep in mind that out of all those items we are below standard only pay rates, retro and medical privacy will be part of the next TA. We have to live with the new contract for another 4+ years unless they make the duration more than the industry standard 4 years.

Again, ALL the items I listed are standard that AA, DA, UA have. The scope items I mentioned are also industry standard. Nothing I mentioned are industry leading items.

Edit, just read your other posts about delta training pay. Please go look at UALPA's latest contract comparison. It shows everything I just mentioned. Please educate yourself on how far below standard we are. Like I said, not having pbs may be only one of about three items were we lead. Everything else is below standard or barely standard.

Last edited by FXLAX; 01-07-2024 at 07:15 PM.
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