Originally Posted by Lileskimo

Not trolling. I've worked for error group and seen first hand the lack of safety. Particularly the extremely low standards for pilot training. Why is the FO on 1282 ASKING atc for lower altitudes or turns? Has everyone collectively forgotten about emergency authority? You don't ASK atc in a situation like this you execute and then tell them what you're doing. This crew would've flown 100s of miles away from PDX until they got a blessing from ATC.