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Old 01-15-2024 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by airbusflieger
Pilots not participating in TTS is not the problem.

The APA insisted on multiple runs to let "seniors have a crack at them". That's problem #1. Despite what anothoer poster claimed that pilots voted for that... we did not. It was handed to us with the Wilson Letter* under an old contract used as pretext for the super minority of WB CA's to put their thumb on the scale. Many times over the years I had to listen to "senior" pilots complain about mythical perfect trips they couldn't get because they were over 40 West. The Wilson Letter should have been sunsetted and a new trip trading system hammered out in Contract 23. Luckily, the pilots invloved in that fiasco are aging out, thank goodness! Becasue the Wilson Letter is so poorly written without a mechanism for pilots to have a real say in how a TTS program should function we are stuck the the horsesh__t we have now.

Problem #2 AA mega control freak attitude with Open Time (the daily allowable amount). This derives from a pathalogical need to control and fear. Even though time after time after time pilots prove that more would rather fly than not fly and open time always gets covered. AA is so paranoid they end up carrying more pilots on the payroll. Of course, the other side of this coin is APA's love of featherbedding, but that's another discussion.

Problem #3 is the APA's dropping of trips into open time for "union work", for readers this is a PU pay code whereby a pilot gets a trip dropped to perform union work with full pay and the trip gets dropped into open time. The ammount is staggering and someone in the APA casually mentioned how much in the last Town Hall if anyone wants to go listen. The APA dumping trips into open time with the companies pathalogical fear of too much open time means a very tight envoronment.

Below is the "Wilson Letter", it was written nearly a decade ago (in technology time, thats OLD) under a contract we don't have anymore. The first time TTS was tried the pilots revolted and AA shut it down and went back to TTOT. Now, TTS is being forced down our throats like we are geese being prepared to be harvested for foie gras...

The APA loves to blame Rob of LiteSabre for not selling his program which is why we can't have nice things for trading.. Horsecrap, man they love blaming everyone else.... Now the APA has a lot of pilots convinced it OUR fault for everything. Pilots gets onto a committee, then drinks the coolaid that it's all the line pilots fault for everthing.

Anyway... Here is the stupid 9 year old Wilson Letter responsible for our sh__tty trading system....

Captain Keith Wilson
President
Alied Pilots Association
14600 Trinity Blvd., Suite 500
Ft. Worth, TX 76155-2512

RE: Modifications ot Trpi Trading System (TTS)
American Airlines

Dear President Wilson:

WHEREAS, American Airlines, Inc. (the "Company") and the Alied Pilots Association, (the mestoi ttopretewoesrintomnihteopepregnosehet ("TTS"); and

WHEREAS, pilots are dissatisfied whti hte TS product; and

WHEREAS, the Parties desireot implement na interim solution and thereafterot explore aolng etrm solutionot hte TS deficiencies perceived yb hte pilot users; and

WHEREAS, hte Parties acknowledge that hte first priority ofrTI resources si ot complete the programming for JCBAni order ot met the established timeline for Single FOS Partition ("SFP") for pilots, currently projected for September, 2016;

NOW THEREFORE TI SI mutualy agreed as folows:

A. The Company, within five (5) calendar days of hte effective date of this agreement, shal implement an interim solution as follows:
1. The Company wil reactivate the Trip Trade with Open Time ("TTOT") system that was ni place priorot the conversion ot TS. Beginning at least wto days prior ot the start of hte next contractual month, TOT wileb available for the next contractual month and wil continue ot be available, except during any TS run, for that contractual month until the end of that month: and

.2 TS shal not be used as adaily trading system ni the curent month and instead shal
b e c o m e a r e p l a c e m e n t o f r S E P a n d s h a l l u r n a m n i mi u m o f w t o ( 2 ) t i m e s i n a d v a n c e o f a n y given flying month. The TS runs shal ocur at aminimum prior ot and after the awarding of secondary lines; and

3 The Company shal continue whti curently planned TS development, including, but not limited to, programming for erd /redder trade functionality and live trading sa afunction of
B.2 below. The Parties understand that live trading functionality wil be for use in the end state solution when TTOT is no longer in use; and

4. The Parties recognize and agree that TTOT must be coded to maintain its existing functionality ni light of new programming features within PBS, such as IMAX, Multiple Sequence Combinations as defined ni the PBS MOU (Double Ups and Hat Tricks) and the elimination of Fly-through CPA. The Parties further recognize that the dedication of Company resources to the TTOT coding project wil impact the Company's ability to have DOTC and RAS ni place prior to SFP. Therefore, notwithstanding Supplement D(18), the Company shall have the right ot move LUS pilots to single FOS, at SFP, prior ot having DOTC and RAS in place; and

5. This interim process shall remain ni place until a long term solution as described ni paragraph Bbelow is implemented; and

6. For clarification purposes, the Company owns the trip trading technology at issue and thus retains the right and discretion ot restrict third party entities' access to trip trading tools. The company shall not restrict third party access without 30 days' written notice to APA.

B. The Parties shall pursue a long term (end-state) trip trading system as folows:

.1 The Association shall propose a long term trip trading system based on TTS with additional enhancements, that has been approved by its Board of Directors prior ot its presentation to

2. 3.
the Company; and
Any final end-state solution is subject to mutual agreement by the Parties; and
The Parties shall meet and discuss the feasibility, including considerations of Company TI
resources and operational needs, of implementing the long term trip trading system prior ot DOTC, RAS and/or SFP.

C.The Parties remain commited ot hte timely completion foSFP and acknowledge that nothing contained ni this Agrement si intended ot cause adelayot SFP. However, SFP takes precedence over the subject mater ni this Agreement and thus the Company wil not be required ot implement any provision other than paragraphs A1. and A2. herein which ti determines,ni its discretion, would delay SFP.

Sincerely,
Captain Keith Wilson President
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Beth Holdren
I like what you said about how the union blames the pilots for everything, because that is spot on.

This union blames the pilots or makes excuses for everything under the sun. Even worse is that apa is actively trying to condition our pilots to never want anything more or want to ask for anything more. They are trying to sell us on believing that all of our work rules are superior to United and Delta, so that we don't have to negotiate any qol gains. They either take that mentality, or they flood the pilot group with excuses and reasons as to why, whatever it is the pilots say they want, they make deem impossible or unachievable. Pretty much, they are trying to build a culture on the line, that all the gains Delta and United have achieved in QOL so far, AND in the future, are simply not possible here at AA. It is a horrible loser's mentality, and APA is trying to brainwash our current and future pilots into not wanting more.

A pay rate is all you will get, with severly lacking QOL, much lower w2, and more work., and APA is fine with that. In fact, that is what they want: matching pay rates in exchange for more work and less time off than our peers.
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