Originally Posted by monkeyboy511

Not only do I wish to see F9 flourish and grow beyond expecataion, I have a vested interest in F9.

In my humble opinion, F9 has incredible potential; not simply from an investor's position, but from an employee's position as well. Unfortunately, F9 will remain at the bottom (on many levels) so long as F9's current leadership (or lack thereof) remain in place. Specifically; BB and BL. With all due respect, both gentleman have reached their useful potential. Both are in first gear with the pedal to the floor. Both gentleman are not well respected amongst their peers; in part due to their lack of credibility and evident poor performance and public perception. Simple litmus test: If BB and BL were to be replaced by Bastion, Kirby, or the like, how do you think the market would react? Unfortunately, top talent comes at a price as does their Rolodex. On a more personal level relevant to pilots reading this thread, it's no secret BL deliberately minces his words; committing the sin of omission on a regular basis. BL little to no respect and credibility amongst the line-pilot ranks (other than possibly JO and a small handful of BL's cronies and minions). I struggle to believe anyone would get in a foxhole with BB or BL in combat. Do you think that was the case at SWA during Kelleher's reign? Kelleher was best known for his "servant" leadership style which contributed to SWA's tremendous success. Kelleher valued his employees, understood how to manage people and customers and motivated his employees to want to come to work every day - and perfom their best! Compare Kelleher's style to BB and BL's style - wonder why F9 employees on all levels are leaving in droves? Good leadership vs. Bad leadership. Poor leadership always (emphasis added) rears it's ugly head on the bottom line. How can investors and employees expect BB and BL manage and control a major airline when neither are able to control their own emotions.