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Old 02-17-2024 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by N711HK
Does anyone know if PSA will pentalize Cadets if they find work somewhere else? I have a CJO from Envoy, and an interview with Piedmont next week. PSA already paid for my CTP, but I will gladly pay them 5k back. I'd rather go to Envoy at this point anyways. There's loose language in the Cadet Letter/CJO that states we shouldn't engage with other airlines. I know its typical for people to rack up CJOs, and go where they want. I just have thoughts in the back of mind the wholly owns will find out I have offers at 2/3 of them. I don't think they really keep track or care, but you never know. Many PSA Cadets I've talked to are in class at other airlines since they've been pushed.

When I signed up for the PSA Cadet Program 2 years ago, the HR pilot said there was no real commitment to them unless you received bonus money. If you wanted to leave before 24 months, you simply paid them back.

As far as PSA class dates go, I've heard so many different things. I don't have a crystal ball, but I don't think most of us would be in PSA class by summer at the earliest. The FedEx pilots are indeed coming, and they have many other high time FOs and DECs in the pipeline. Unless you're a Cadet who actually got the bonuses, they are not making you a priroity. The whole reason I let PSA keep my CTP date is thinking they'd bump me up. Turns out, it made no difference. It might have gotten me an Envoy CJO though.

The main thing that concerns me about PSA is they are being very wishy washy, and aren't giving hard dates for Indoc. They're basically speculating you'll start one month, then push you another 1-2 down the road. They are holding carrots in our faces. I'm sick of it. I wish they let us do things at our own pace, and say something along the lines of, "Just stay where you're at, we'll call you when your time comes." They made a big deal that I would be ready for Indoc on 1/15. Thank god my flight school let me have my CFI job back. Envoy at least figured out their CA imbalance last year, and are now ready to hire FOs off the street again. Envoy claims 2 classes a month, 75-90 FOs each. That should move a lot faster than the 30-40 PSA starts a month. Most of those are DECs anyways.

I have a slight conspiracy theory that PSA took on way too many FOs, and are kinda hoping candidates will leave on their own and find work elsewhere. They will never own up to their hiring miscalculation. I have a friend who has been pushed multiple times. He was supposed to start 10/23, and now told 3/24. That's quite the wait.
go to whoever hires you first. Alaska already stopped pilot hiring. Everything is about to slow down a lot so get in ASAP wherever you can.

they might be able to transfer all your cadet stuff too since both are WO - it won’t be as big of a deal

Also, all the big retention bonuses at Envoy are pro-rated and PSA makes you pay back the whole bonus if you leave.
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