Originally Posted by
7576FO
While having cocktails with a good friend of mine last night. He mentioned that if his airline parked some 737's he'd get bumped back to co-pilot. He went on to complain and complain and then he said "i'll be invisible again"
Well that isn't the first time i've heard that remark.
And it brings out all of my defensiveness.
To me this just shows his ego and he has no respect for the team effort.
When he was a 767 co-pilot he bragged about how good he was.
Also on our Union board there was a big discussion thread on how Captain upgrade is so hard. And they don't just give Captain type ratings to anyone.
At my airline American, there is a required up or out upgrade policy. If you do not pass upgrade you are fired. It used to be a one-year trigger from when someone junior to you upgrades. And our Union wants it deleted from the next contract.
Now I was a captain at a regional for a very long time. I always treated it as a team effort. I didn't go around talking about who was a good co-pilot and who was bad.
I can understand getting bumped from the left seat losing pay and status. But to say that you are going back to invisible insults me.
What say you?
7576
I wondered if that 'up or out' policy still existed at AA. Perhaps my opinion is not popular, but I think it's pathetic how many career right seaters we have at CAL (many of them scabs). It shows a lack of ambition and poor leadership skills. (Disclaimer for CAL - our junior CA work rules are so horrible I suppose it's a viable excuse). Why does your union want the policy changed? I think it's a great way to have rather predictable movement on the seniority list and hold people to a higher standard. Like Human Resources always says: 'they're hiring Captains.'
Oh, and I'm definitely not good - just lucky.
