Originally Posted by
Hubcapped
absolute strawman argument. The fact that you cannot see that a destabilize Europe would inevitably affect the United States is slightly odd for a man that pretends to be so smart. This is not about altruism for the United States. This is about national self interest. And making sure that we can shape policy on the global scale. Obviously all of this has been said already, and you just choose to disregard the importance of being top dog. Your foot may be out the door, but I still have at least 30 years (hopefully).
i’ll say it one more time since you seem to not understand. I have never once posted unsolicited personal opinion on this whole topic for probably 18 months. I am merely making sure that Cargo knows he can’t get away with his agenda here. I have only ever responded to him. he is a slave to Russian propaganda and I will happily fight that anywhere I see it
Then get our NATO allies to pony up the money to defend Europe. They have it - their collective GDP is ten times that of Russia - We've been carrying water for them for a hundred years and the only two World Wars over there strangely enough found us on the side of the Russians and fighting the Germans both times.
So if you want a stable Europe get the European countries to actually fund their own defense and by the European countries I mean those with large populations and big GDPs, like France, Germany, Italy, etc. Sure, I know Estonia is doing more than its part but Estonia has a population of 1.33 million, Lithuania under 3 million, with less than $100 billion gdp between the two of them. Spain alone has $1.5 Trillion, but the big countries sit back and want the old US of A to carry them. That's BS. If the MAJOR countries in Europe don't care enough to fund their own defense I don't see why the US taxpayer should. That's not Russian propaganda, that's common sense.