Jerry, out of sheer curiosity, I looked you up and saw that you are an ALPA spokesman and a United pilot since 1995. Credit where credit is due and I sincerely apologize for treating you like a typical internet forum troll that this forum is full of, myself on occcasions included.

But please tell me... having bearing on this conversation, how do you justify ALPA's actions in 2007 when it went against the wishes of the majority of membership with respect to Age 60? I refuse to buy the notion that "we wanted to have a say in implementation..." as if ALPA would somehow be "punished" for representing the will of its membership?

Along those lines, do you think ALPA is even relevant in the Age 67 debate? The reason I'm asking is because in 2007, ALPA rendered itself irrelevant when it dropped its opposition to changing Age 60 rule despite membership because "it was going to happen anyway." Back then, I called it a betrayal. I still do. Same with ALPA's stance on pensions and how ALPA National folded without so much as a wimper when it came to A plan terminations. Literally, nothing was sacred, except political self-preservation at the detriment of its membership.

Pardon me for not celebrating the return of dues money after the famed and long-forecasted pilot shortage finally caught up with the industry.

Again, apologies on being rude and unbecoming earlier.