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Old 05-03-2024 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Mostly correct, but not entirely. To summarize:

1. For years, Delta refused to offer the pilot jumpseat even to their own pilots, much less any other pilot group. This stemmed from a very toxic, anti-pilot mindset from the CEO on down. "If everyone can't have it, then no one can," "nobody forces you to commute" etc. This was also in the days of horrible contractual language, such as, you only got a hotel for qualification training "away from your base." So if you were an MCO-ATL commuter, and were going from M88 to 767, for example, it was all done in a crashpad at your expense. It was so ludicrous, to use the prior example, let's say you were going from CVG 88B to ATL 767B, if your training spanned more than one calendar month, and you converted on the first day of the second month (while still in training) the company would literally kick you out of the hotel at the end of the first month, because now you were ATL-based in month two, and "no one forces you to commute." (we eventually fixed that hotel language years later, so now it is pretty good)

2. We secured "industry standard jumpseat" with our 96 contract. It was mostly concessionary, but we at least got that! (disclaimer: I was hired early 97, so we already had the contract ratified long before I was hired).

3. The jumpseat has been pretty standard ever since. We actually didn't close the DFW base until the mid-2000s, so the two really aren't related.
The company actually requested a LOA to lower pilot pay 5% prior to the contract after they cut all non contract pay 5%. We basically agreed if we could have a industry standard jumpseat. The company refused. We ended up asking for a Delta pilot only internal jumpseat and still the company said no. I was a recently displaced pilot soon to be commuting and Ron Allen stopped in our training class during a break. I asked why we could not get a jumpseat as it would be a big benefit with the displacements happening. He put his finger in my chest and replied that he would shut Delta down before he would give us the jumpseat. I knew then we were in deep trouble with a CEO with that thought process!
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