Originally Posted by
LeineLodge
That was sort of the genesis of this thread. Once doing all of that stuff, what’s the next logical step, given the great likelihood that it’s my kids that will be the beneficiaries.
Higney’s “why” question is apt. Barring wanting to spend a lot more money every year - we don’t - it comes down to where is the most appropriate place to put excess savings.
I’m sure there are 17k different answers to this question but most will fall into 3 buckets:
1. Don’t quite have this ”problem” yet, still building up savings, paying off house, whatever. Not yet saving beyond the buckets tennis mentions above. Still pretty awesome compared to most other jobs.
2. Do have this “problem” but have a use in mind for the excess, thus not wanting it all locked away in retirement accounts. Willing to trade some tax efficiency for access to the capital.
3. No specific need in the foreseeable future for the excess, combined with a wide(ning) delta between income/expenses. All other things being equal why not save in the most efficient way possible. I think the mega has some potential utility in this specific case.
Realistically #3’s could get another ~$60k extra into Delta sheltered accounts if you want to. Those saving a lot more annually might preference this. Others might split the baby and not go so hardcore.
To bring it all the way back around, it only applies to pilots in the #3 case above that are weighing 401a-to-Roth vs Brokerage (both will be taxed this year) and consider the savings otherwise equal, either due to proximity to retirement (50+) or confidence that they have enough other liquid $ to not need the Roth money until retirement. Or at least 5 years when you can pull out converted contributions.
It’s avoiding tax on capital gains by trading some liquidity for 5 years. True first world problem.
If a lot of that earmarked money for person #3 ultimately will go to their heirs, isn’t the brokerage account financially equal considering the heir gets a stepped up basis, negating significant capital gains?
I swing towards brokerage option due to lack of complexity, access to the money for purchases/opportunities/bailouts/security/black swans/etc between now and retirement, and the fear Roth money will be a tax-free promise for an ultimately narrow audience. Eventually Congress will figure a way to pull the football so-to-speak, and penalize high net worth Roth holders either through Medicare premium hikes, plus-ups like the Obamacare tax, investment taxes, etc. Maybe not in the next few years, but I fear it will catch up eventually. Kinda like the uncomfortableness of lower AMD thresholds being a $cary threat on the horizon of a Biden-led reelection.