Originally Posted by
Whaledriver101
B757200er and the rest of you captains on your "high horses"
Be sure and tell your FO's during your pre-departure briefing that their postion and time for this flight is completely worthless. And to not even put this time in any logbook. As an FO Ive offered many a good advice to you "know it all" captains, especially new guys on type. The worst is the "know it all types" that can do no wrong.
Respect your FO's you prima donna's. With fuel approaching 200 a barell(and it will get there). There is no telling where you'll all be. That FO may be in charge of hiring your arrogant @sses.
Whaledriver,
I'd have to say you took B757200ER's comments out of the context they were written in.
He merely alluded to the fact then when looking for work, SIC time is given little or no credit to the applicant...simple as that.
After being furloughed from American/TWA, I had almost 11,000 TT, 6000 Jet, and almost 10,000 turbine SIC time but ZERO turbine PIC. I went to a AIR Inc and when handing my resume to an Air Tran rep, he told me I did meet their qualifications because I did not have the required 500 Turbine PIC time. He then went on to tell me to go get a Beech 1900 job, and upgrade as soon as possible then send Air Tran a resume when "I'm qualified".
There are many candidates that apply to UPS and do not meet their min. quals because they don't have the 1000 hrs of turbine PIC time. However, these same candidates have over 10,000 hrs and a heck of a lot more experience than some of the 2000 to 4000 hour wonders that were hired 10-15 years ago that are now Captains at UPS. Unfortunately, some of these 2000 hr wonders are the loudest complainers at UPS because they have no idea what it's like to work elsewhere....
"This is the worst flight I've had in 18 years"
"This is the worst company I've worked for because they don't carry my bags up and down the crew stairs."
"I hate it here, because crew scheduling lied to me."
"Our Travel Dept. sucks, because I requested an aisle seat in first class and got a window seat".
So, when B757200ER said that SIC is useless when it comes to hiring, he wasn't on a high horse by any means, just stating that tens of thousands of hours of SIC should count for something when compared to 1000 of turbine PIC (UPS) or 500 turbine PIC (Air Tran).
I actually like working at UPS and am extremely humbled considering the other candidates that also applied to UPS.
FF