Originally Posted by
rickair7777
It's not "you guys" it's a tiny a handful of jack*****, the same idiots you will find at any airline (or anywhere else for that matter).
But don't kid yourself...the eventual outcome of this has little to do with unions or scope. Scope gives the XJT group the opportunity to apply some control inputs...it's not likely to change the end result.
If XJT management doesn't get over it's stubborn streak it looks like they will be out of a job, and this isn't a good time for a 50-seat company to be out looking for work.
CAL scope is certainly a factor, but that can resolved in several ways:
1) Get relief from the CAL pilot group.
2) Start a NEW certificate (yes, this has been done before).
3) Buy an existing certificate which has ERJ's on it. I heard ornstien has one of those, and he needs cash badly...and it's already staffed with desperate young pilots who have proven they will do anything to fly an airplane.
The XJTers are still in a position to make a good deal, I think you can keep what you have. But don't reject SKW out of hand and then expect alpa to save your regional butts...not going to happen (I've tried it, it doesn't work).
Rick,
As with any complex equation, there are variables, however, at the moment they are in our favor, and as much as I support ALPA, I don't expect them to save the day. It is entirely up to us the pilots, and if it comes down to it, most of us will bet farm and either win big or lose big, but I won't sell the farm for pennies.
As far as scope at CAL, now that they're staying independent, I can assure you, it will stick, but don't take my word for it, ask the CAL guys.
The frames that Orstein has won't barely cover, but half of the flying in the immidiate future (51 frames as per the letter.)
I appreciate your honest and intellectual approach to the situation, and I've always respected your opinion. Unlike some of your co-workers, I hope his real talent is flying.
