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20Fathoms
Copy thanks. As long as I’m asking dumb questions I’ve got one more (I imagine other people are learning from this as well).
Let’s say the company calls during my training day or during my 9 hrs free from duty and gives me an assignment 18 hrs and 1 minute after the resumption of my LC. I don’t check my schedule as there is no requirement to since I’m not coming off a no fly day.
Does the voicemail they left during my non contactable time count, or do they have give me another call pretty much exactly when my LC resumes for it to be legal? Cheers and TIA
1- let me be more clear about the end of a training day. It’s a 24 hour period ending at midnight unless what you do plus 9 hours goes past midnight. So when you’re “done by 1” the remainder of the day you finish on is a training day. Regular pilots can’t pick up rotations in this footprint
2- the company must contact you when you are in a contactable status (long call). You’re not obligated to the schedulers on the training day. It specifically says so in the PWA
11.F.1.: “A pilot will be removed from scheduled flying and reserve obligations on each day of their continuous training”
11.F.12.: “A reserve pilot will not be required to be contactable before the pilot has received a duty- free period of at least nine hours after their completion of training.” (Except that if this 9 hours ends before midnight you’re still on a training day and not contactable)
Excerpt from scheduling alert 19-01
Taken together, Section 11 A. 6. and Section 11 A. 35. of the PWA define a training day to be a day on which a pilot is scheduled to train, be on a break of three days or fewer between training sessions, or travel between his or her base and training location. Section 11 F. 1. further states that a pilot will be removed from scheduled flying and reserve obligations on each training day. Finally, Section 11 F. 10. requires at least nine hours free of duty after completing training, i.e., the end of the pilot’s debrief, if training in base, or the block-in time of his or her scheduled flight from the training location to the base. (Scheduled positive space information can be found on your PBS calendar and in iCrew VTS.)
A pilot’s schedule should reflect completed training time (as defined above by the end of the scheduled debrief or scheduled positive space flight), plus the nine-hour duty-free period. If the nine-hour duty-free period advances a reserve pilot into the next calendar day, then he or she is immediately back on long call status at that time with a 12-hour minimum callout. If this period is still within the footprint of the original training day (i.e., does not advance into the next day), then he or she does not go back onto reserve status until 2400 that night, at which point the pilot is back on long call with a 12-hour minimum callout.
(Alert was published with old LC rules that’s why it says 12 hours)