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Old 05-07-2008 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Carl a straight mathematical ratio or ratios is not an extreme position it is in fact the outcome of the last arbitrated seniority list (America West and US Air). NW might have to argue against a list constructed by current pay rates or a list which accounts for less fuel efficient aircraft or a list which fully encompasses future growth from the business plans or a list which takes into account all three of those factors.
I understand that you don't think DALPA's ratio was extreme. I wouldn't expect that you would think anything devised by your own union is extreme. That's just human nature. As far as the other possibilities you cite, in arbitration ANYTHING is possible.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
What if the process delays and Northwest pilots start to get furloughed when the freighters are parked and Delta is hiring pilots to fill 777-LR slots? What if a few more DC-9's are parked when Delta gets more 737-700's and MD-90's? How many pilots will get furloughed then. You don't think it could worse for your pilots, but it could get very much worse.
Precisely why LOA 19 and the no furlough clause for Delta pilots only is of such major concern to NWA folks. Many DAL pilots on this forum state that LOA 19 was done for only the most altruistic of motives. Your post illustrates our concern to the contrary.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Maybe you are comfortable in the left seat of your Whale but a lot of your more junior pilots might not be so comfortable.
You must not have read very many of my posts. My biggest concern is the lopsided furlough possibility produced by LOA 19.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
A mathematical ratio or ratios is not an extreme position, it is going to be the outcome of an arbitration if there is one. Get used to it. The sooner you guys get on board the sooner you can join in the growth at Delta. If your MEC is afraid to make the decision then it will be done for them sometime a few years from now. If that happens then it will be a shame. You have already thrown away a bunch of money, how much worse does it have to get before your MEC will do what they need to do.
The rest of your post is blather. You should be embarrassed. Next time try actual facts or historical precedent.

Carl
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