Originally Posted by
captnate702
Hope is not a strategy. Giving GU and IBT the benefit of the doubt is just naive hope. We know who GUnand IBT are because they controlled for years and look where it got us???
There is no way we get a deal until early 2025 - at the absolute earliest. That came straight from the source. NC needs time playing with NB sandbox before we can get deal and that will take at least until the end of the year. NC isn't planning on talking compensation until after everything else is done (scheduling and scope). We are no where close to getting a deal done.
I think early 2025 is way too ambitious given they just started talking scheduling and need to “play around with Navblu” before can negotiate the work rules. Then scope? Then compensation? Say goodbye to another year of wages and DC to retirement. Just another $300-$400k gone from my retirement account while we wait at least another year…
This is all 100% in the companies court now. If they really want a deal, not sure they ever did. They can get in the room and get to work. If they are not willing to meet more than 3 days a month, yes it will take forever. They have made excusses of why its not done, but little to no effort to get real and get it done. If they Company is OK with taking the month of July off from any Neg with the Union they are 100% the problem. If this pilot group would come together and in one voice let the company know this is no longer aceptable, that they need to get in there and work with whoever is our reps, and that we as a group will not settle again for less than what anyone else gets for the same job. They wanted the deal done in June, they just wanted that deal to look like what the email showed. Take the money again with better retirement and except we controll everything else. They will continue to push for that deal until the pilots step up and say NO. They will only get to work when they belive that to get the deal done they will have no other option than to pay up. I 100% believe that they still think they can break this pilots groups resolve for getting the deal we deserve.