Originally Posted by
Margaritaville
Spirit hasn't declared bk yet. You must have crystal balls.
Frontier seems to be hanging in there.
An AB or 737 isn't flown differently at a ULCC vs. a Legacy.
You're a fool if you think you're worth less because of where you work. Industry standard is the pay the rate for the equipment. What you're really doing here is giving management a discount because you place monetary value on being home every night. Again. Don't be a sellout and bring the whole industry down because you have low expectations and low value on your worth because you know you'll retire from allegiant.
Spirit is a walking zombie but yea, they haven't declared bk yet. Its only a matter of time. they will not last in their current state a year from now when their $600m secured notes are due. They don't even know if they'll be able to process flights with visa and mastercard after in January 2025. The way spirit gets saved is if uncle sam bails them out.
Margi - you are right they are not flown differently, but saying who you work for has no impact on how much you get paid is absurd. It fails common sense. The audience that has to believe this stuff is the NMB. Our mediator spent her career at frontier and spirit, you think she's gonna believe the circus that is the IBT that it doesn't matter where you work, in fact where you work actually has zero impact on how much you should get paid??? Listen to yourself, you are capable of common sense.
I'm being realistic because our union has been living in the clouds for the last 5 years and needs a dose of common sense. Living in their own little has screwed this pilot group. Lock in a deal. Get us our pay. The market is turning for the worse and we are losing out on hundreds of thousands that we will never see again.
Margi - all this nonsense about "sellingout" and "letting down the industry" is such political b.s. next you're gonna tell me that my bumper stickers are causing you physical harm and violence.
Instead, give me concrete arguments/reasons for why we should drag this out another two years hoping to get 95% of legacy rates? seriously how does that benefit our pilot group? give me real reasons, like money reasons or big quality of life reasons for why we should wait this out?